Speaker 1:
Welcome to today’s episode of True to Form with your host, president and co founder of Crystal Clear, highly regarded speaker and two time Inc 500 entrepreneur, Tim Sawyer. True to Form is a podcast that highlights leaders making headway in the aesthetic, anti-aging and elective medical industry. Learn from the experts to discover the secrets of success and pitfalls to avoid when growing all aspects of your elective medical practice. This week’s episode is brought to you by TouchMD, the all in one aesthetic technology hub that educates your captive audience in the waiting room and console room, consistently captures and manages photo, provides digital charting and consents and allows patients to take their experience home, to share what they learned with friends and family via the practices patient app. Please join me in welcoming your host, the authentic, the transparent Tim Sawyer.
Tim Sawyer:
Hello, and welcome to True to Form, the podcast that connect you to the people technology and hot topics that change the elective medical community. Provided to you by Crystal Clear and brought to you by this week’s sponsor, TouchMD, leading Fallingwater aesthetics technology hub. I’m your host, Tim Sawyer, and to our returning guests welcome back, and for our first time listeners, we appreciate you joining us and encourage you to become a subscriber. In the last episode, we spoke with Clementine Bentley, a successful practice owner and skilled aesthetician who talked about her journey from being born with fragile X autism to becoming a driven entrepreneur in aesthetic medicine. If you missed it, you absolutely have to check out this inspirational podcast. One of my all time favorites. And with all that said, we’re headed out to Beverly Hills today, and there’s my pleasure to introduce our next special guest Dr. Kourosh Maddahi.
Tim Sawyer:
He is an award winning Beverly Hills dentist. Dr. Kourosh Maddahi has been one of Beverly Hills premier cosmetic specialist for over two decades. During that time, he has developed his practice to create a truly one of a kind experience for people looking to transform their smiles. And listen to this, in the last decade, Beverly Hills cosmetic dentist Dr. Maddahi has appeared on dozens of reality TV makeover shows including 10 Years Younger, Extreme Makeover London, Oprah, Extra, CBS, Entertainment Tonight, and The Doctors Show. He has been featured in over 500 nationally published articles and appeared on over a half a dozen new segments on the subject of anti aging dentistry, a sub field of dentistry that he himself has pioneered. You’re going to love what he has to say. Dr. Maddahi has written two bestselling books and has won multiple awards, including America’s top dentist and best of Beverly Hills for many years in a row. It is my pleasure to introduce to the program today, Dr. Maddahi. Welcome, Dr. Maddahi.
Dr. Meddahi:
Hello Tim. Thank you for having me. It’s a pleasure to be here.
Tim Sawyer:
Oh, the pleasure is all ours. So the first question I have for you, Dr. Maddahi is, it’s May 8th and I’m still caught in the throes of this pandemic. So where is elective medicine at, in Beverly Hills right now? And being able to, in terms of being you, seeing patients and doing procedures?
Dr. Meddahi:
Well, it’s still non-existent, besides a few emergency cases. We’re hoping to be starting on that after May 15th, especially in Los Angeles, where up to May 15, the mayor has ordered anything nonessential not to be done and also still stay home. Some of the stay home parts of the county are still on their stay home ordinances, but May 15 is the day hopefully we can start to slowly, slowly ramp back up.
Tim Sawyer:
Yeah. Well, we’ll be thinking about you for sure. And how have you thought through, are there any big infrastructure changes you’re thinking about as far as patient safety goes and waiting room times and things like that, are those going to be any big changes for you or-
Dr. Meddahi:
Yeah, I think that the main change is, one is that all of the prescreening that we have to do, asking patients multiple questions before they come into the office, taking temperatures, making sure that people in the waiting area are six feet apart. So not having multiple patients at the same time. And then the amount of gear that we have to wear and just working with the N95 mask all day long. It’s not an easy thing to do.
Tim Sawyer:
Right. That’s going to take a little bit of judgment. How is your team holding up? Good.
Dr. Meddahi:
They’re all good. I did not lay anybody off. We had the whole team together the whole time. Even though the office was closed, we were in touch, making sure that their lives are not interrupted and they’re getting excited to come back.
Tim Sawyer:
Oh, that’s great. So I have a few questions and I’m trying not to be star struck when I see things like Oprah, Extra, CBS Entertainment Tonight, and I realize I’m doing a celebrity podcast today. I got to work through that. But so everybody starts somewhere. I want to talk about the books in a minute, but everybody starts somewhere. Tell us a little bit about your journey. How’d you decide to become a dentist and how’d you end up in Beverly Hills?
Dr. Meddahi:
Yeah. So my journey to dentistry actually started when I was 13 years old. I am from a family of healthcare professionals. My brother’s a cardiologist, my uncle is a general search, my sister’s an industrial psychologist, and my brother in law is an internist. The whole concept of the healthcare field was something that I enjoyed immensely. The other part of it was I love to work with my hands. This may sound strange, doing plumbing, doing electrical work. It doesn’t matter. As long as I’m working with my hands and I’m trying to problem solve areas. It was something that was very enjoyable to me. So it was between becoming a surgeon or becoming a dentist and seeing my uncle’s life of constant interruptions in the middle of dinner and late nights and everything else. I wanted a more type of a structured schedule. So that’s when I decided to become a dentist.
Dr. Meddahi:
And I started that journey and went through UCLA and then USC dental school, and then at USC, I had a professor, his name was Dr. [inaudible 00:07:05] Which was the chairman of the prosthodontics department. And he had an office in Beverly Hills, which he was only practicing out of two days a week. So he says, my office is available. If you want to come and practice there, you can rent office from me. And that’s how it all started. In 1987 in August. I started to work with him. I was with him for about 13 years. And then I opened up my own practice on Roxbury drive in Beverly Hills.
Tim Sawyer:
Now you, LA native or California native or…
Dr. Meddahi:
Yeah, yeah. LA.
Tim Sawyer:
You’ve got a pretty impressive resume for someone in the dental community to put you at the top of the top, right. Was there some event or someone you met or was it just a gradual grind it out every day to get that reputation where you wanted it to be?
Dr. Meddahi:
I think I will tell you that first 10 years of my practice was a constant grind. The interesting part of it is that today, if somebody wanted to start a practice from scratch in Beverly Hills, I don’t think they would make it. When I graduated in 1987. Yeah. When I graduated in 1987, it was me and about eight of my other friends that started at private practicing Beverly Hills. None of them are there anymore. They have went off to the other cities and opened up larger clinics and things like that. It’s very, very difficult to be able to build a reputation and slowly build your practice up with patient referrals and other professional referrals takes time, takes a lot of grind and it’s very difficult. So I think it’s, now it’s almost impossible.
Dr. Meddahi:
So after 10 years, one of the things that happened was I read a book called Good to Great by Jim Collins. And one of the things that he talked about is that you’ve got to pursue things based on three circles of what you’re passionate about, what can you be the best that, and what, also having both of those, what is it kind of thing that you can also make money in so that there’s enough resources for you to be able to continue. And at that point, the only thing that really fit all three of these circles was cosmetic dentistry.
Dr. Meddahi:
So I started to just focus on cosmetic dentistry and not do any general dentistry, I didn’t do any more root canals, even though that was the best and the easiest thing that came to me. [crosstalk 00:09:57]. And normal extractions and gum surgery, nothing else, just cosmetic dentistry. And by focusing and sticking with it is where that whole reputation started. And interestingly enough, in 2003, there was a great cosmetic plastic surgeon, Dr. Paul Nassif called me up. He was at my office opening the office party a year before and he called me up and he says, I have a patient that I am doing for Entertainment Tonight as part of a makeover. She also needs a lot of work with our mouth, and in terms of her teeth and everything else, would you be interested in doing this type of a makeover on a show? And that’s where it all started. And then we started to do multiple shows together. And there was the beginning of all of the makeover shows and working with plastic surgeons and cosmetic dermatologists. And that was an ever expanding sphere.
Tim Sawyer:
Wow. That’s an amazing story. And all these things, like you said, start with laying the groundwork, right? It’s just that hard work, keep chipping away. And I give you a lot of credit. One more question before we get into the books, I’ve been fascinated recently with, so I’ve been… Our company, Crystal Clear has been in the elective medical space seven years, and our clients range in size from the [inaudible 00:11:42] down to the single practitioner and med spa. And it feels like there’s a bigger celebrity culture in elective medicine. Now than there ever was. Do you think that’s true?
Dr. Meddahi:
My own experience is there was always the big, in terms of elective surgeries, I think there was always a huge celebrity portion to it. What I am seeing more and more is anybody and everybody is also interested in elective surgery. And it all started, I think, with the extreme makeover show. Extreme makeover show, what it did was it showed ordinary people what’s possible. And what was possible was only the celebrities that were going to top surgeons could see it, but nobody had really seen any of these procedure and how transformative it could be until it was on national TV. I think that was the start of it.
Tim Sawyer:
[crosstalk 00:12:50].
Dr. Meddahi:
So I would say the percentage-
Tim Sawyer:
Surgeons themselves are the celebrities.
Dr. Meddahi:
Yep. Yeah. Yeah. So that’s that is what’s happened, the shows and everything has created a celebrity status and there’s many people that come to my office. They really are thinking that they’re with a celebrity and they want me to sign. They want me to sign books and they want it. They want to take pictures with me for their Instagrams and everything else, which is strange for me. But it goes to show you the culture has changed.
Tim Sawyer:
It’s amazing. It’s a good place to be, I think. And you guys deserve it. You work hard. And I’ve got a lot of great friends who they have achieved that celebrity status. But when I see the schedule that they keep and the work that they put in, because remember there’s a marketing component to it, forget about your three circles, which have to exist, passion and expertise, and you’ve got to monetize it. But then the time they put into managing their social media channels and their practices, a lot of work, and I give you guys a lot of credit. Let’s talk about the books because you’ve got two great books. Tell us a little bit about Toxic Overload. What’s the thinking behind that?
Dr. Meddahi:
Right. So Toxic Overload is a combination of 20 years of research. And one of the things that happened during this pandemic, I really had the time to sit down and complete that project. So it was just completed. It’s now on sale. People can get it on Amazon, but this is one of the, I think the life long goals of mine in order to do true research and find out exact causes of different things that are happening within our body. And more importantly, what is the connection between the mouth and body. So the oral systemic connection, there’s been so much published articles with regards to cardiovascular disease in terms of periodontal disease, connections to cardiovascular disease, diabetes, colorectal cancer, lung disease, Alzheimer, and early birth pregnancies and deliveries. There’s just such an amazing connection. And that has been the focus of this book and more importantly, what are the simple things we can really do to restore our natural body’s defense, which is our microbiome.
Dr. Meddahi:
A lot of people have talked about microbiome in terms of the gut and its relationship to the rest of the body and whole body health. But microbiome is not only in the gut. It’s also on your skin, in your eyes, in your nose, in your ears, in the birth canal and also in your mouth. And the first line of defense is actually by the microbiome. Microbiome is microorganisms that are in or on your body that are protecting you against the infection and disease. And what could we forget about is that we are mostly made of bacteria. We have a hundred trillion bacteria to ten trillion in human cells. And the bacteria in our body is responsible for many, many of the vital functions, including digestion, including vitamin K production, stimulating and production of dopamine and serotonin in terms of mood neurotransmitters, and many more things.
Dr. Meddahi:
And what we are doing in terms of our oral care, we are destroying the entirety of this microbiome in our mouth by using antiseptic mouth washes. We are destroying the microbiome on our skin by using hand sanitizers on a consistent basis. And you’re destroying the gut microbiome using products such as the meats that has antibiotic in it or many of the products that have antibiotic in it already. So we are being inundated, some sort of antimicrobial and antibacterial component, including all of the cleaning products that we use at our home that is destroying this microbiome. And it’s sort of lowering our immune system and immunity, and it’s making us more susceptible to all sorts of different diseases, infections, and the rise of autoimmune disease. So that’s where I get into all of this.
Tim Sawyer:
Wow. And it seems like this couldn’t be more timely in terms of the book and the research, right? Because as a lay person, I’m not a physician or a surgeon, but I read a lot and there’s a lot of different opinions around how we’re, as a world, handling the COVID crisis, right? To your point, everyone’s got masks on, they’re breathing this stuff in, and they’ve got gloves on and they’re washing their hands 50,000 times a day. What that feels like to me, once any measured mitigation measures lifted, it just seems like everyone’s going to get COVID.
Dr. Meddahi:
Well, once the mitigation is lifted, what you’re going to see, I believe, is there’s pockets of surges. But since the pockets, since you have more of the testing available, more of the hospitals have had experience in terms of treating some of these patients with COVID. You can handle those surges much quicker, much faster than what you could do before. What was happening before, it was overwhelming the entirety of the medical system. But more importantly, there was lack of testing and there was a lack of a clear cut type of treatments that could be possible. So you are sort of in a state of confusion, running around with your… Not knowing exactly what to do. And you didn’t have enough experience and you don’t have enough knowledge of what was happening in all the other countries.
Dr. Meddahi:
So the best thing to do is just shut down everything until you gain some knowledge out of it. But not continuing to have people at home, I’m not restarting their life. I don’t think that is something that is achievable over time. It collapses economies, it ruins people’s lives. Also there’s a lot of people that may be having unrelated medical issues that they do not go to the doctor or hospital and they die as a result.
Tim Sawyer:
It’s suppressing that. Let me ask you this. So on a practical level, you’re talking about microbiomes, right? And how basically there’s an ecosystem in all of our bodies. And what’s the role of the mouth in that ecosystem and what are you recommending in terms of folks taking better care of that part of the ecosystem?
Dr. Meddahi:
Right. So I want to just briefly explain, even with regards to the COVID 19, the coronavirus, the path of entry into the body is either through the eyes, nose, or the mouth. The reason why CDC and NIH constantly talking about washing your hands is because you might pick it up and then through eating or touching your mouth, you’re transferring it into your body. And your mouth is an area of high vascularization, and you can easily get a bleeding in your mouth and whatever is inside it in terms of viruses and things can get into your blood stream. So that’s the concern. So having that concern, why do you wear a mask is so that if you sneeze or you cough or anything, something’s not coming and transporting the virus to someone else, right?
Dr. Meddahi:
So going back to the mouth, what do we want to do? The first thing we want to do is washing our hands. What is continually baffling me is in all of the talk from the CDC or NIH, they have never said, use hand sanitizers to the general population. All they have said is wash your hands, wash your hands. The reason for this is that the act of washing your hands with just soap and water, you will remove any type of bacteria or viruses off of your hands. You don’t need to do anything else. The hand sanitizers are continually destroying the bacteria that’s on your hands, on your skin that’s trying to protect you. The hand sanitizer also can be transferred into your mouth by touching your mouth. So if you’re constantly cleaning your hands with hand sanitizers and you touch your mouth, that type of anti-microbial, or that type of a thing goes inside the mouth starts to kill the protective bacteria, that’s there to protect you in the mouth as well.
Dr. Meddahi:
So we want to just stick with basic hygiene practices. Now, am I against hand sanitizer? Absolutely not. It should be used in [inaudible 00:22:54] settings, dental offices, medical offices, hospitals, for sure. That’s what it should be used for. Those are the highest carriers of contamination, but the general population, if they don’t have any access to soap and water is when they should be using it. Other than that, soap and water is the way to go.
Dr. Meddahi:
Then we go into the mouth, having proper oral care and oral hygiene is so important, not just with regards to the COVID-19 virus, but also with regards to all sorts of other diseases that you can get throughout your body. And the start of it starts with inflammation of the gums. And that’s what gingivitis is. So if you don’t brush, if you don’t floss, if you don’t use proper or care products, or if your diet is full of sugar or products that are very acidic, you get destruction of the mouth and you get inflammation.
Dr. Meddahi:
And after a while that inflammation becomes infection and that infection starts to tax your immune system. As a result the body is not prepared to fight off very serious stuff. And is engaged in this chronic inflammation in the mouth. So how do you have in this particular time, where you may not be able to go to your dentist, or you may not be able to get your cleanings? What are the things you should do? You should brush your teeth three times a day, floss once a day, and also use non alcoholic mouthwashes, nothing that is antiseptic, that kills what’s inside your mouth because 98% of the bacteria in your mouth are protective bacteria that are protecting you. So this is the basics of what you’re talking about.
Tim Sawyer:
I think that’s really, really good practical feedback. I think you’ve got a great outlook on this. And how does that philosophy and thinking, how does that lead to the anti aging dentistry project? [crosstalk 00:25:18]
Dr. Meddahi:
So the anti aging book and the anti-aging dentistry aspect of it came all as a result of years of doing the makeover shows. So it’s interesting when you are working with a group of professionals, being a plastic surgeon to a cosmetic dermatologist, and you are working on a single patient and doing total makeovers and as a first step, usually we did the teeth first. And because after anybody that does any type of a plastic surgery on their face, you don’t really want to pull it. You don’t want to do anything after a nose job. So we will do the teeth first. Now, one of the interesting comments I used to get from the plastic surgeons, even the cosmetic dermatologists was that since you’ve done the teeth, my work completely changed in terms of what I had to do. It changed. I had to do very minimal, some of the things I didn’t have to do, what is it you’re doing with the teeth?
Dr. Meddahi:
And I basically started to look at the pictures the, before and after pictures, and all I was trying to do was create a proper support inside the mouth. And what I realized is that your cheeks are supported by your teeth. Your lips are supported by your teeth.
Dr. Meddahi:
So if your teeth is too far out or too far in, you end up having a thicker or thinner lip. If your arch is narrow, you end up having lines right above your lips, and you can get this hollow look. So I started to look at all these things, and I saw the connection between the structure of the teeth inside the mouth and your lower one third of your face. So people that grind their teeth and make their teeth very short, all of a sudden they get lines on the corner of their lips. They look more sort of upset or powdery looking because of the teeth are too short and the mouth is closing too much. And the lower the chin is coming forward. So making these types of changes inside the mouth, mostly with crowns, veneers and things like that. Not only I was able to change the color of the teeth, but I was also able to create a better structure inside the mouth that would support the cheeks and the lips. As a result, you would get at least 10 years younger looking people after the procedure.
Tim Sawyer:
Wow. It truly, to your point, literally transformed, it’s transformational.
Dr. Meddahi:
Absolutely.
Tim Sawyer:
What a cool, cool way of looking at that. And the book is on Amazon now, right?
Dr. Meddahi:
That’s right. The book, I have written three books, the first one was Antiaging Dentistry, which was a bestseller in Amazon. The second one was The Hidden Epidemics that I started to talk about some of the impact of the products that we’re using inside our mouth and what it is doing. And then the third book, which is the most recent book is The Toxic Overload. All three books are an Amazon.
Tim Sawyer:
Wow. But I’ll tell you what, this was, it’s really neat to hear. And I, like I said, now I have a better understanding as to how you’ve been able to accomplish what you’ve been able to do, because if you go back, I love the kind of picture that you pointed out of one, you have to have passion, two, you have to have expertise, and three, you’ve got to be able to monetize that. And I could tell that in your case, it starts with passion. And I love the role that you explained. So simply how the mouth, and like I said, I had similar conversations with Dr. Larry Rifkin, who I know you know, and his experiences in pottery and sculpting. And he kind of has a similar philosophy around, the mouth can really make a difference, like you said.
Dr. Meddahi:
That’s right. That’s right. I think one of the key takeaways, part of this whole concept of the microbiome and all of these things, I’ve done 51 clinical studies. I created a oral care product called Lumineux Oral Essentials, which consists of mouthwash, toothpaste, whitening strips, mouthwash for dry mouth, septums for sensitivity teeth, for whitening, all sorts of different things.
Dr. Meddahi:
I’ve done 51 clinical studies to prove these concepts of microbiome and how you can surely use naturally derived products that can work as well as the traditional products, without the harsh chemicals and the destruction of the microbiome. So when you’re talking about passion, passion also comes from the point of an ethical viewpoint or what is good to do for your patients. What is a better way of handling situations so that the patients do not have to be in the chair as long, or they wouldn’t have to experience pain. So that passion, what are the shortcomings are in the field and always looking for a way to handle the shortcomings. I think that’s what drives me in particular on a daily basis. And I’m constantly tinkering with procedures to find a way that would be done better, faster, more efficient with less recovery, less of a postop inflammation or pain or anything else connected to it.
Dr. Meddahi:
And that has led me through a lot of trial and tribulations and a lot of stressful situations that I put myself into for the betterment of my patients, and also spreading that around to the colleagues and then telling them that there’s a better way of doing something.
Tim Sawyer:
Yeah. And I could sense that through this entire conversation, and it’s amazing. Now is that oral care kit that you created, is that available commercially, can people buy it online or…
Dr. Meddahi:
Yeah, so it’s available commercially. We are in about 2000 Walgreens and another 2000 stores. People can go on oralessentials.com and see a store locator. We’re also on Amazon and we sell on our website. The company is pretty big. And-
Tim Sawyer:
And what is the name of it again, Dr. Maddahi?
Dr. Meddahi:
Lumineux Oral Essentials. And the website is oralessentials.com.
Tim Sawyer:
Oralessentials.com. Well, I know after my wife hears this, we’ll have that on our shelves in about one minute. So…
Dr. Meddahi:
I’ve got to tell you, Tim, this is, if I were to tell you, in terms of a legacy, the legacy will be a changing oral care industry and paying more attention to what we are putting in our mouth. And that’s why I have spent so many times on the most of the studies that we have done is with independent university study is the first non-toxic oral care line in the world. And there’s nothing like starting your own product line, where all of your money will disappear into it, because it’s so difficult. You cannot be doing this because you want to get rich, rich people do it to, just because they’re passionate about something, or they want to do something, or they want to create something new that would create a much greater effect. So it’s been fun. It’s been very, very stressful and tiring. I work maybe 16 hours a day, six to seven days a week on all of these projects. So hard work is the basis of all of these achievements.
Tim Sawyer:
And at the end of the day, like you said, when you look back on it, it’ll be worth it, right? When you finally get to that, when you’re willing to, when you think about putting your guns down, and someone said something really interesting to me, that stuck with me, a really successful friend of mine is a lawyer. He’s a financial management guy. He works with surgeons, doctors, that type of thing, really great practice. He said about making decisions, during COVID, think of it this way. Two years from now post COVID, you want to be able to look back and have your post COVID selves thank your COVID self. I think we can imply that you’re a full body of work, right? When it’s all over, post-work Dr. Maddahi will be able to look back and thank working Dr. Maddahi. And that’s very evident too.
Dr. Meddahi:
Yes, no absolutely. I think one thing that I always try to emphasize is that I still have not come across a successful person in my life that was lucky. It was all through hard work. I know so many people that are so successful and I intimately know the details of their lives and all of them have sacrificed so much and they have dedicated so much time to their craft. Even when you look at Kobe Bryant or Michael Jordan or any of these people that have amazing God given talent in their area, look at how much hard work they put in in terms of practice and everything else to be able to achieve the levels they have achieved.
Tim Sawyer:
Yeah. And I meet great people. As soon as you meet someone that’s like that, you can instantly tell, and it’s not what they do, it’s actually who they are. This is who they are. Right? Hard work is the multiplier, but passionate, super passionate. So I want to start to wind down Dr. Maddahi. I want to make sure that everybody remembers the name and writes this down. He’s got two great books we encourage you to pick up. One is The Toxic Overload. The other is Antiaging Dentistry. We want to make sure that everybody goes and checks out oralessentials.com. And if any of our listeners have a quick question or just wanted to say thank you, is there an email they could reach you at?
Dr. Meddahi:
Yes. They can reach me at Dr. Maddahi at drmaddahi.com.
Tim Sawyer:
That’s great. And the website again is…
Dr. Meddahi:
Oralessentials.com. And also my own personal website is drmaddahi.com as well. They can look at all of the work that I have done, and watch some of the procedures that I’ve done on The Doctors Show. It’s really fascinating.
Tim Sawyer:
Well, this was really fascinating and I can’t thank you enough. And it’s funny, I’ll let you go with this. I was, I’m sitting here looking at the introduction that we did, reading back over your truncated bio. And I was actually just thinking about cutting and pasting and sending this to my adult children saying, I just interviewed this guy. And if you were here, I’d have you sign it.
Dr. Meddahi:
I really appreciate all that you do. And your podcast and the time that you spent in terms of setting this up and interviewing different people, I think you’re doing an amazing job, and an amazing service to everybody who listens to you.
Tim Sawyer:
Thank you. Like you said, this isn’t something that you get rich off of. This is something that I’m just passionate about. That peer to peer. I want to facilitate those peer to peer discussions and people that can connect with other people who are inspirational. Nothing bad can come out of that right. Only good things.
Dr. Meddahi:
Absolutely. Yeah.
Tim Sawyer:
Dr. Maddahi, thank you so much for taking the time today. We want to thank our listeners for joining us once again. Look forward to our next episode, coming out, Dr. Kourosh Maddahi, most likely we’ll get this out, you guys, Thursday, anyone interested in learning more about [crosstalk 00:38:17] can stop by the website crystalcleardm.com. We also want to thank this weeks sponsors, TouchMD, the all in one aesthetic technology hub. I’m your host Tim Sawyer, thank you Dr. Maddahi, and we’ll see you again soon.
Dr. Meddahi:
Thank you.
Speaker 1:
Thanks for tuning into this week’s episode of True to Form, brought to you by TouchMD, the all in one aesthetic technology hub. To learn more about your podcast sponsor, visit touchmd.com, and to learn more about your podcast provider, Crystal Clear. Visit crystalcleardm.com. Also be sure to subscribe to the show on all your favorite music apps, including iTunes, Spotify, SoundCloud, and tune in to stay up to date with the newest episodes. Thank you for listening.
